tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129884466436576116.post2220020782164702698..comments2024-02-14T12:43:04.624+00:00Comments on Crosswhatfields?: Train carriage squatted, and Creekside cafe to closeSuehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07914930883748622529noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129884466436576116.post-35385113569891755392013-12-24T01:28:47.415+00:002013-12-24T01:28:47.415+00:00some people need to wake up and see what the syste...some people need to wake up and see what the system are doing to you there is nothing wrong with squatting/squatters most squatters live of peoples rubbish (unused food cloths buildings) yer some squatters are bad and give a bad name but it is just a small number of the bad that happens around us and am pretty sure the train is in better shape then most houses round the area at least wile u have a good squatter u should be thankful Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129884466436576116.post-36375774836447308612013-12-24T00:09:19.948+00:002013-12-24T00:09:19.948+00:00Please read my post :) hope it clears things up. A...Please read my post :) hope it clears things up. Also we have taken electricity meter readings and changed it my name so I am more than happy to cover water and electricity costs :) please give us a chance my friend, we truly are on every bodys side. Oh btw there's no security guard maybe your confusing the guys who work in the shop. If anything im the security guard, the carriage had been BROKEN into around 20 time and we didn't break a thing when we entered. I just want to give my side if the story :) samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129884466436576116.post-70608040396349822842013-12-24T00:02:06.649+00:002013-12-24T00:02:06.649+00:00Please Rebecca, see what I have wrote. I really h...Please Rebecca, see what I have wrote. I really hope you're not the Rebecca whom owns the business because if so, I have always let my of in, and once you even commented on how tidy it was. If anything I'm protecting your business from other people who could make a lot of money from all the equipment, which I use, clean and look after until you want it all back :) I am not a squatter, I am a human being. This place is clean and friendly with free tea, food and conversation. Please understand we are not the image of "squatters" you may have in your head, we are productive, proactive and happy people wanting to help not hinder. They don't want the train moved yet or they would have started regardless. I will leave when the train can be moved somewhere it can be reopened for this lovely community. Much respect but please come by before you judge :) samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129884466436576116.post-48354815689893908442013-12-23T23:52:00.128+00:002013-12-23T23:52:00.128+00:00Funnily enough I am one of the people "squatt...Funnily enough I am one of the people "squatting" the carriage. We entered though an already smashed window and made the space hibatable. Unfortunately the photgraph shown of the living area is an inncarute represetation of what the inside of the train carriage generally looks like, and the effort we have gone to in respecting the space and makinh it habitable and clean. I'm somewhat upset and concerned however by strange reporters taking innacurate pictures of the carriage, and also that they didn't even come say hello and made no contact whatsoever, as opposed to both the tourists and locals who turn up on a daily basis out of curiosity, all of whom I invite in for a free cup of tea and free meal and we have a chat about what were about and also the future of the carriage from what I'm told. We're here out of necessity and fully appreciate a rooves over our heads. I am also very "squat proud" so I have kept the place clean and even improved it in areas. With regards to the property developers, they want the same here as they do for the rest of London, new bistro's, brand name shops and plenty of consumerism, but at what cost? The local businesses are struggling as it is. After finding out more about the train including the history of it being the oldest railway service yard access ramp in the world along with other local stories and local support for the train reopening on such a wonderful piece of local history. The land involved extends to areas that could be used for so so much more than a trendy bar or a new Starbucks etc etc and as for us saying about the electricity supply. I can honestly say none of us have said such things that is a pure lie. From the start, to both to the owner of the business and the property developers, we have always said we will leave whenever they tell us to. But nobody has given us an answer, instead they just slapped us with a civil court date, costing them money and causing us distress when we have been nothing but honest from the start. In short, we fully support the Deptford project, and it will be a great shame if the property developers take away that autheticity that Deptford still has with yet more "development". Sam :)samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129884466436576116.post-3509414774483852592013-12-23T22:53:07.205+00:002013-12-23T22:53:07.205+00:00What makes you think the guys on the train, have t...What makes you think the guys on the train, have trashed it? I see them cleaning and sweeping up the decking and putting a otherwise unused building back to see use. From what i gather is they have been more then willing to not have to take this to the civil courts and come to some sort of short term deal. The people of Deptford can see through the liesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129884466436576116.post-78115226033322058422013-11-28T11:54:55.449+00:002013-11-28T11:54:55.449+00:00Like the job centre all plans to open are complete...Like the job centre all plans to open are completely on hold. So if it takes 4 months to get the squatters to leave it means adding another 4 months on to the relocation planing time line. Its so frustrating! Especially as things like the carriage and a new job centre pub just add good things to the high street and to Deptford.<br /><br />Also, Cathedral were not reluctant to store the carriage. What was needed is somewhere where all refurbishment works can take place and to give the carriage much needed attention, specially now it's been trashed even more by the squatters. And also what has taken so much time is trying to work out with The Albany, the Council and Cathedral how and where the carriage can and will stay in Deptford for the long term. <br /><br />I have been in so many meetings now working out with everyone all the details that I am amazed at just how much needs to be considered. Street traders, services, access, location, position, how to and when... The list is endless. At the meetings I wondered if this process has been more complicated than the actual development.<br /><br />And your absolutely right this did set out as a mean-while idea but who was to know when it all started thing would be the way they have been and for everyone I'm sure, especially for me it's been a learning curve.<br /><br />Let's hope the guys on the train leave soon so we can get on with work to get the carriage re-opened!!. <br />rebeccahttp://thedeptfordproject.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129884466436576116.post-45347792147590737062013-11-20T21:27:45.075+00:002013-11-20T21:27:45.075+00:00what other way can we kick the squatters out from ...what other way can we kick the squatters out from the Train Carriage? Just. Hangsinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09102338295707837344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129884466436576116.post-39354533714587423402013-11-20T20:46:44.740+00:002013-11-20T20:46:44.740+00:00I love their lovely crusty rolls and imaginative s...I love their lovely crusty rolls and imaginative soups, it's a sad day when they go. <br /><br />But personally think squatting in business premises is OK as long as that business is of the kind that can afford the court costs and the delays. The train is just a tiny struggling business, I don't understand why the squatters didn't go for nearby St Paul's House, which is huge and owned by the council, and probably the last thing to be redeveloped (affordable homes I think). It has heating and lighting. Maybe it was strategic if the developer was going to start on the carriage ramp first, though I can't see why they can't start elsewhere first. Or have the squatters secured the whole site? Can't have if there's still a security guard there...?Deep Fortnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129884466436576116.post-22852163066568312272013-11-13T21:10:18.648+00:002013-11-13T21:10:18.648+00:00Pity as I'll miss the Creekside's Fentiman...Pity as I'll miss the Creekside's Fentiman drinks range they sold - they were fab. Also, feel sorry for the train carriage owners - I had no idea they would be lumbered with the electric costs of the squatters - the sooner the government bring a law in to prevent people squatting in business premises the better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com